Tier 3 Questing .. it may be time

O...K! so first of all I'm POSTING! See I do come here from time to time -.-

Secondly: Woooo we did our first few Tier 3 quests today ... but yea it didn't go QUITE as well as I had hoped. They're hard ..... much harder than I thought, so it looks like it's gonna take some real effort to get past them on a reliable basis.


Updated Tier 3 Mission Info


Chessmaster - Mount Babel: Involves killing a bunch of Mount Babel Rabbit Army monsters. Diffuculty: unkown since we haven't tried it yet

Councilman Reese - Copperhorn Mountain: Protect an annoying NPC from some Uber versions of the Grizzly Garrison mobs. Difficulty: unknown .. we'll try it soon enough

Learned Elder - Swan Lake Basin: The one with the Quiz .. Difficulty: unknown but we'll see soon enough.

Emperor Gang Spy - Collington: Round 1 and 2 - Easy as pie, kill a few weak enemies ... Round 3 - 2 Mini Bosses + a few more enemies also not too hard.
But Round 4: Kill Black Fox + a bunch more enemies ... This one is what has caused the most problems, not because of survival but because there are too many enemy NPCs running around and it's difficult to protect Mr. Godwin.

Possible Strategy: Have a tank (Keno, Kempri, etc..) steal aggro from the majority of the minor enemies and basically lead them around in circles. This should keep them out of the way and hopefully Godwin will be safe as he chases after them. The main Doctor follows the Tank and heals as necessary while the remaining 4 players (3 beaters and a secondary doctor) pound away at Black Fox.

Expedition Team Member - Dragons Den: Rounds 1 to 5 - EASY ... no challenge... but once again Round 6: Woken Wovern + a small army of minor snake enemies INCLUDING a couple of Super Septic Snakes ... yea, this ones tough. The Wiki lead me to believe that this wouldn't be hard because I didn't know about Woken's army of assassins but having tried this one out a couple times, it's definitely not the easiest of the bunch anymore. So far, it looks to be the most difficult in terms of surviving at all. The timer is of no consequence, it's about living through it now.

Possible Strategy: We tried dragging Woken away and found that to be no help. The main problems are being causes by 2 things: Woken's horrible debuffs and the 2 Super Septic Snakes that appear once Woken is down to about 1/2 hp. We need to be able to take those out SO .. Someone tanks Woken (Keno) while 2 others grab the snakes around and pound them into the ground. One doc keeps the tank alive while the secondary doc helps out the others that are managing Woken's army. We haven't gotten to test this out yet but it seems like our best strategy.



Some things to take note of

I've confirmed that EVERY member that participates in the mission is rewarded 30 points upon success, not just the leader. The quest cooldown for each mission is a day but Mission tickets can be used to repeat any one of these missions, so we could use that to our advantage. It takes 2 mission tickets for the entire team to be able to repeat the quest, and must be used by the leader. Dying in any of these quests costs NO exp so we don't have to worry about that.


So anyway, we gave it our best shot and we're getting better. As Keno said, a few tweaks and we just might have it. We still have 3 more T3 quests to try out, hopefully those will go a bit smoother but I'm sure once we know what we're up against we'll know how to handle it. We may have lost a few rounds, but it definitely wasn't a failure. Knowing is everything and I'm sure we'll be fine once we find the strategy.

oooo recipes.. hotness. I like tryin new stuff. So ya know im willing .. but um.. am i veteran? XD

lol yea i think we rdy. I was talkin to a few ppl today about MM. They say its possible wih 6 ppl. it took them 30 mins. with 6 lvl 60 ppl (not higher or lower. Exactly lvl 60). 1 muse, 1 doc, 1 tank, and 3 beater uppers. Im not sayin we rdy but i thik we gettin pretty dam close to being able to take on MM, Lairs are Another thing, But we gonna need more ppl for those.

Now the people i talked to about MM they said that only a few ppl actually had their lvl 55 set (I think it was Doc and Tank that had their 55 set). Everyone else was was wearin lvl 50 armor.

I for one think that we should do T3 quests and if they are easy to us that maybe in the next month or so we could give MM a try. (No Pressure) Cuz the last thing I wanna do is fail lol. Its just i wanna really try MM soon so we could boost fame and get our names out there.

Just talkin about these quests gets me all excited and shis lolbounce: . But I dont wanna seem like im pushy bout it cuz belive me im not.. I just really really really wanna lol. Other than that im game for some T3 quests. I also wanna try the pheonix battle in PT from the Lealy person.
Hm.. other than that i ran out of things to say lol :

I don't know what this stuff is been gone to long... but... You all have fun... I have internet issues that prevent me from doing what i want, I'm not at lvl 50 yet anyway haha probably wouldn't be much use to ya

Couple of things left out from the quests above (thanks to wikia):

Expedition Team Member: Stage 6 after the two GFNS is an 'slightly stronger' Woken Wyvern, at least hpwise.

Emperor Gang Spy: Notes that Mr. Godwin and at least one other NPC needs to live.

Learned Elder: Some of the questions and answers are on the wikia.

To put things in perspective, the top equipment items take 1800 points and each success per quest gives you 30 points. So after 60 wins, you'll have your Lv. 60 armor pieces. Assuming you go everyday and win every time, that's two months. So start saving up those tickets since everyone gets rewarded per a success.

As far as MM is concerned, as long as everyone knows what to do and you have everyone 60+ then it's 'attemptable'. I'd like our first attempt to be under 25min which I feel would be respectable. Also, Phoenix Battle at Demon's Tower is not a solitary thing... it's just the first boss out of a number of them and similiar to a lair run with just 6 people.

Lair runs... way down the guild's endgame agenda IMO so not going to discuss.


While we are on the topic of endgame, I want to make sure to remind people not to forget our other members since we're going to eventually need them too. The number of active players is still low compared to the amount we have in guild. So it's best to build them up (Snapsen, cHaW-cHaW, Sweets, etc.) into reliable guild members. If they or others don't want to do endgame, that's fine too. At least there should be other friends (wahna, etc.) who would be willing to help or sub in. DOMO's endgame content is small atm although Clem has noted there's a lot more in the works (AoM was all I remember). So I'm most concerned with finishing my personal agenda and avoiding burnout before mid-August when my regular gameplay will come to an end.

Edit: Is there some way this can be moved to the Missions Section?

Well put Keno, about the newer and potentially lower level guild members. Yea I just gave mostly the basics for the missions, anyone can feel free to check the Wiki for all the details. It seems that most of us are up for starting this, as posted in the forums or mentioned in-game so it's our first test run!

Time: Tomorrow July 2, around 8-9 PM PST

1st Target: Collington's Emperor's Spy mission! This one seems like it might actually be fun too so why not start here. If it goes well, I can throw in a couple mission tickets for extra points if people are up for a few extra runs.

2nd Target: Dragon's Den Expedition guy whatever he's called! Yah yah I know, who wants to kill FNS's and GFNS's and all that crap but we gotta do em all sometime so here we go

Other Targets: At this point people may be tired of it or they may want more! We'll see how it goes and if we do well up until here we can move on to Learned Elder and then to the last 2. GL people I hope to see you all tomorrow.

So far, we've got:

Kenosha
Corah (me! yay)
Crooks
Kempri
Napi
Wifey! (edit yay)

P.S. SCRIZO We've got 1 spot to fill left over! If either of you are up for this, feel free to get in on it and if both of you are interested we can just take turns and swap people out in turns so everyone can get a try (I'll provide tickets if necessary). EDITED: Wifey's in! yay, so SCRIZO you're more than welcome to get in on it too. I think everyone should at least try each mission at least once in order to get an idea of what they're like. Besides, you're the big guy running the show so it wouldn't be the same without you

Oh ya, and if this could moved to the Missions section that would be great XD but I figure most of our Vets know about this topic by now so it should be ok.

Sure I am up for it! ^^

moved.

lol I totally went to post and it was moved by the time i posted.

Sooooo ok. Im always up for ubers and T3 as longs as im not in a team atm. About mission cards. Since they just got mini promo'ed (I think) The prices should go down a bit and I wannna stock up on them. Hopefully i can have enough money to do so. I hate bummin Tickets and wat not off of people. I also agree with Levelin up the other players.

And Also Keno has a point with the active Player count. Somehow we are gonna have find random recruits like we have in past (Me, Tad, Wifey, Corah) and/or level our other players. But only if they want to like Keno said. I also agree we have a long while before we attempt Lair runs with just guild memebers. We just dont have enough active players atm.

ooor we could bribe our uber friends to join lol.

Sorry, but I'd be against getting people from other guilds to join unless their own guild was dying, dysfunctional, or shared some mutual alliance. Let's stay away as far as possible from becoming anything like EF...

Yea, hopefully there will be more mission cards on sale thanks to the promo. 10k/card? I'd rather farm chests in DT and take a chance at that.

lol yea i was just playing about that. I would leave if we was like EF.

Crooks I wouldn't worry tooo much about the tickets, at least not for the T3 quests. From what I understood, one ticket should get all 6 participants another run for another 30 points (assuming success which I will ) I don't think all 6 people have to use a ticket to do the run again ..... although I can't say this for sure. We'll have to try it out and see.

If that's the case though, I wouldn't feel like you're mooching at all if I used a ticket and you were there to tag along and help, since we all would benefit from it.

i also have a question that i just thought of. So the 24hr limit for T3. does that mean that just the leader has the 24hr limit. or does that also include the other team members also. Like wat I mean is 1 person is leader does the T3. then leadership goes to the next person. Would they be able to or is that time limit account for them also?

All 6 players get the 24 cooldown on the mission, not just the leader.

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edit: updated the main post with a bit more info

Aye. I felt defeated and fail. But meh I guess its true that we learn from our mistakes.

ill tier 3 with my witch doc XD LOL JK JK im only lvl 17

When are we trying this again? Can we get a day to make it regularly scheduled so it doesn't interfere with in-game and RL stuff?

Ok, sry I've been away from the forums for a while ... anyway Keno is right there should be a day where we do this on a regular basis.

I think until we get a solid strategy down for each of the 5 missions, it would be too much to take on all 5 each day so for now lets say 2-3. Once we can get through them fairly confidently we can maybe move to doing all 5 in a day.

Next run: Learned Elder and the one at Babel. If people are still up for it after we can try Copperhorn Mountain.

We've got some more potential recruits for this too, Wifey's hit the 60 mark, and I know Wolve is heading for 60 too so I hope they're up for it.. and there are others but i'm terrible at keeping track XD (I know Wifey was there last time too).

Strategy:

Learned Elder -> From what i gather, there's no real change between the rounds other than the mobs are chosen at random, to a maximum of 10 uber versions of in-game vengeance bosses. I'm not sure if Keno can tank all 10 but hopefully we can get a few on him, a few on me and possibly on whoever the third beater is (Scriz as BM or Kemp as MA). There is also the possibility of trying to answer the questions in time, and the Wiki does have most of the answers but 20 seconds doesn't leave much time to go through the process of: -- Read the question -- Tab to Wiki -- Quickly find the question in the list and read the answer -- Tab back and type the answer. Not to mention, he'll ask different people the questions who are forced to answer, if someone else answers for them it doesn't work so we have to be prepared to be facing 10 mobs on average.

Mount Babel -> I honestly have no strategy for this one since the Wiki is extremely lacking for details and we haven't tried it yet. First round was a load of Rabbit Army guys who were strong but not all THAT bad so it looks to be a lot like the one at Dragon's Den. Basically, just try and survive and beat down what you can. Stay in a group and hopefully we can manage the final round(s).

As for setting a day of the week:

So far, we've got ubers on Tuesday / Saturday (I think?) and people have been in on the Lair Missions a lot too. Keno suggested Saturday, but as it's part of the weekend I don't know how much we can trust everyone being here. I know usually I'm not around Saturday Nights (I do go places yaknow XD) and I don't know if that applies to everyone else. Still, if everyone else likes the idea of doing it Saturdays I can just try to be here a bit more

The other option that I suggested was Thursdays after Casino Night. I know generally we're all around for Casino Night and it ends relatively early. People already have the incentive to be online for the event so it's a good bet that we'd be able to get a good team together. I know there are Lair Runs that night too but it's not like we have to do Lairs every night they're open, they are there 5 days out of the week.

Ok so, basically I need people to POST and decide Saturday, Thursday, or any other suggestion you have on when you think you can be available, and what might work for everyone else.

My vote is to alternate activities on Tuesdays and/or Saturdays to keep things fresh. Honestly can do more than a few activities on any given day, but only if people are efficient with time. (Specifically ubers and Bigbeam instances... we pretty much tore through them last time.)

As far as Lairs go, I personally will be doing them every night they are scheduled. Can still do something afterwards since we'd finish around 11:30pm CST.

o.o we should do them

agreed.. i was dead and didn't get credit for the DD one T_T

eventually through these forums and when we are online we need to set dates for these t3 and MM runs..even ubers.. (still need 55 la chest) at least cordinate t3 stuff since u kinda need a whole team to do them, well makes it easier lets say. im lookn to corah to maybe set up t3 days i know trae wants to also do these for the 55 recipes

OK thought I would rez this thing because well... It's about dam time we started to T3 again! we need to start talking bout it on here or in game so we can start trying to finish our recipes and what not!

\o/ im down